Salafis say Allah is Surrounding the World

Says the Pseudo-Salafi ‘Shaykh’ al-Albani:

قال في تعليقه على صحيح الترغيب والترهيب ( 1 / 116 ) من طبعة المكتب الإسلامي الثانية 1406 هـ* ما نصه :

فائدة هامة : اعلم أن قوله في هذا الحديث : فإن الله قبل وجهه .

وفي الحديث الذي قبله فإن الله عز وجل بين أيديكم في صلاتكم لا ينافي كونه تعالى على عرشه ، فوق مخلوقاته كلها كما تواترت فيه نصوص الكتاب والسنة ، وآثار الصحابة والسلف الصالح رضي الله عنهم ، ورزقنا الاقتداء بهم ، فإنه تعالى مع ذلك واسع محيط بالعالم وقد أخبر أنه حيثما توجه العبد فإنه مستقبل وجه الله عزوجل ، بل هذا شأن مخلوقه المحيط بما دونه ، فإن كل خط يخرج من المركز إلى المحيط ، فإنه يستقبل وجه المحيط ويواجهه .

وإذا كان عالي المخلوقات يستقبل سافلها المحاط بها بوجهه من جميع الجهات والجوانب ، فكيف بشأن من هو بكل شئ محيط ، وهو محيط ولا يحاط به ؟ وراجع بسط هذا في كتب شيخ الإسلام ابن تيمية كالحموية والواسطية وشرحها للشيخ = ( * ) زيد بن عبد العزيز بن فياض ( ص 203 – 213 )

rough translation:

He said in his footnotes on Sahih at-Targhib wat-tarhib, from the 1406 Hijri edition of al-Maktab al-Islami ath-thani, and I quote,

‘Important (point of) benefit: know that his statement in this hadith, ‘Allah is in front of his face,’ and in the previous hadith, ‘Allah Azza wa jalla is in front of you during your Salat,’ does not negate His being on/above the throne (and) above all of his creations, as the text of the Qur’an and the Sunnah, and the reports of the Companions and Pious Predecessors report by tawatur (may Allah be pleased with them and may He grant that we follow them). Despite that, Allah is expansive and encompasses the world, and has informed us that wherever the slave faces, he is facing the Face of Allah (azza wa jalla). In fact, this is even the state of that of His creation which surrounds something other than itself as all lines that come from the center towards what it is surrounded by face the surrounding object. So if a creation high up faces what it is lower than and is surrounded by, with its surface, from all directions and sides, then what about the One that surrounds everything, and He is surrounding and not surrounded?

See the detail of this in books of Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah and like Al-Hamawiyah and al-Wasitiyah and its sharh by Shaykh Zayd Bin Abdul Aziz Bin Fayyad (p. 203 – 213)

This is something similar to what was mentioned by the pseudo-Salafi theologian ‘Shaykh’ Haitham Hamdan who is an administrator of the Multaqa Ahl al-Hadeeth forums:


1) Allah SWT could be either inside the world or outside the world … It is a matter of agreement among main stream Muslims that He is outside the world. Being inside the world means that He SWT mixes with impurities, an aspect of imperfection.

2) The universe is round (sperical).

3) Relative to itself, a sperical shape can only have two directions: a top and a bottom.

4) For a sperical shape, bottom is towards its center, above is away from its center.

5) Allah SWT is certainly away from the center of the world, so He is certainly above it.

…and a diagram of Um Abdullah / NMS / Musleemah also posted on the same Ahl al-Hadeeth forum:

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